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  • #84197 Score: 0

    Amanuelcool
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    In-game name: Amanuelcool
    Why you have been banned (X-ray, spamming, etc.): Mods assume that i was xraying.
    Where you are banned : I ban in Survival in /wild.
    Who banned you: Psycho9, I think?
    Why you should be unbanned: Im innocent I did not even use xray the mods assume i did, I did not use any hacks i only had Damage Indicator mod on nothing else. First of all they said how did i get that much emeralds and Diamonds while i even told them that i looked it up “how to mine in minecraft” and what are good places to mine and google told me around Y:7-13 deep underground is the common place to find them, and a another thing is they think zig-zaging is a route to xraying i really dont get it if they checked my inv i had 2 stacks of coal ores and Iron and so many stones ( btw i was using silk touch pick). This is my side of the story i hope u enjoyed reading it and help me get unbanned ASAP.

    #84215 Score: 0

    AnderZENZ
    Participant
    19 pts

    Mods rarely mistaken X-Ray, but if you are true to your word, they will hopefully unban you. 😉

    #84218 Score: 0

    Leonando134
    Participant
    -1 pt

    Forwarded

    #84224 Score: 0

    ZznabelaA
    Participant

    Mods NEVER ban someone if they aren’t 100% sure that he use hacks etc. Also yeah psycho banned you. And about the finding diamonds the best level is 10, not 7 nor 13.

    #84238 Score: 0

    DragonEngineer
    Participant

    OK I am just going to be very objective, I am neither protecting Amaunelcool nor criticising the moderators. I am just expressing what I am feeling.

    He said, and according to wiki, most diamonds are found around y=11. So having so many diamonds at there is nothing suspicious. I once found a vein of diamonds by mining straight from a cave – found by luck. This doesn’t mean I am using X-ray.

    Regarding Zig-zagging, it also does not mean a person is using Xray. In prison server, I mine randomly, hence forming the zig zag pattern. It does not mean I know there’s ores are over there, I just meet them coincidentally.

    Amanuelcool told me that blue told the mods that Amaunelcool was using Xray. Does it mean whatever blue said is true and Amanuelcool is a lie? Where’s the evidence?? The mods might have made an ASS out of U and ME (if you don’t get it, it means ASSUME).

    I give you some cases
    Case 1:
    Person A accused Person B that Person B uses Xray. What Person A said may NOT be useful as evidence saying Person B is using Xray as Person A may be framing Person B.

    Case 2:
    Person A claimed himself using Xray. This makes what Person A said VERY useful as evidence saying Person A is using Xray.

    Case 3:
    Person A accused Person B that Person B uses Xray and Person B said that he uses Xray. Both viewpoints supports one conclusion, making what Person A said VERY useful.

    Case 4: Person A accused Person B that Person B uses Xray but Person B said he did not. Only one person or both people are lying, but we don’t know who, then you need to take a look at multiple viewpoint to see which conclusion the viewpoints support. Note that those providing the viewpoints must have no relationship to the accused and each other, otherwise the reliability is questionable. The “framing” might be set up or planned.

    The mods also told me they cannot see what another player sees directly, yet claiming that they are 100% sure that a person is using Xray, I thereby feel very sceptical about the mods’ way of identifying Xrayers. Because how can a mod be 100% sure a person is using Xray if they cannot see directly what another player is seeing on his screen (thereby no concrete evidence).

    You have to know mods are humans, not a perfect lawyers, so there will still be mistakes made by the moderators. In this case they probably assumed by believing what blue and and not Amaunelcool (according to what Amaunelcool told me). When coming across such incident again, do not junp to conclusion, instead compare and contrast the viewpoints, and provide concrete evidence, before arriving at a conclusion.

    As I said, I am just being very objective, I am neither protecting Amaunelcool nor criticising the moderators. I am just expressing what I am feeling. So I don’t think I deserve any form of punishment such as fine or banning.

    #84243 Score: 0

    DragonEngineer
    Participant

    So I hope the mods will understand and unban Amaunelcool ASAP.

    #84246 Score: 0

    ZznabelaA
    Participant

    I will not reveal how guards+ find xrayers, but I am just gonna say that, if we were to ban everyone that the members tell us to… um all of the server would be banned…

    #84266 Score: 0

    megaseth
    Participant
    41 pts

    Jiazheng, I don’t know about Prison mods, but from personal experience, Survival Moderators follow the potential X-rayer around for a little while, as to get sufficient evidence of them using such advantageous mods.

    #84391 Score: 0

    Amanuelcool
    Participant

    ZznabelaA you did understand when i said 7-13 it meant 7,8,9,10,11,12,13, look how fast you assumed the wrong thing about my case.

    #84392 Score: 0

    Trevish
    Blocked

    ^^
    +GuardMods+ may also make mistakes since they are human too
    So they are not 100% right

    Well,Whether AmanuelCool xrayed or not,I believe he should be given a chance

    #84395 Score: 0

    DragonEngineer
    Participant

    OK then provide concrete evidence that Amanuelcool used Xrays.
    I am still very sceptical about how you guys identify Xrayers

    #84399 Score: 0

    megaseth
    Participant
    41 pts

    Well, the ‘concrete evidence’ needs not to be seen by you, sorry.

    #84404 Score: 0

    Anonymous

    The evidence should be seen by all players to be fair in my opinion especially when some mods (no naming) forgotten the attribute of critical thinking just like what JiaZheng2707 said as players can pin-point important clues that mods may have overlooked

    #84468 Score: 0

    Psycho9
    Participant

    Firstly yes mods are just HUMANS just like the rest of you’s. We are not computers so no matter what our decision is or what we do there is always the potential for human error.

    With regards to the actual ban appeal. Firstly blue had nothing to do with it so that is incorrect. As mods we have set protocols to follow when catching people for hacking. In this particular case Amanuelcool you were watched for quite some time and displayed many traits of an x-rayer. There were also 3 different opinions saying that you were using X-ray, which increases the validity of this ban.

    I think owning up to something you did wrong, would increase you chances of being unbanned. Considering this is your first offence and you are a good player for this server, you will be unbanned.

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