Ban Appeal: Amanuelcool

[AmanuelcoolParticipant]

In-game name: Amanuelcool
Why you have been banned (X-ray, spamming, etc.): Mods assume that i was xraying.
Where you are banned : I ban in Survival in /wild.
Who banned you: Psycho9, I think?
Why you should be unbanned: Im innocent I did not even use xray the mods assume i did, I did not use any hacks i only had Damage Indicator mod on nothing else. First of all they said how did i get that much emeralds and Diamonds while i even told them that i looked it up “how to mine in minecraft” and what are good places to mine and google told me around Y:7-13 deep underground is the common place to find them, and a another thing is they think zig-zaging is a route to xraying i really dont get it if they checked my inv i had 2 stacks of coal ores and Iron and so many stones ( btw i was using silk touch pick). This is my side of the story i hope u enjoyed reading it and help me get unbanned ASAP.

[AnderZENZParticipant Karma: 19 pts]

Mods rarely mistaken X-Ray, but if you are true to your word, they will hopefully unban you. 😉

[Leonando134Participant Karma: -1 pt]

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[ZznabelaAParticipant]

Mods NEVER ban someone if they aren’t 100% sure that he use hacks etc. Also yeah psycho banned you. And about the finding diamonds the best level is 10, not 7 nor 13.

[DragonEngineerParticipant]

OK I am just going to be very objective, I am neither protecting Amaunelcool nor criticising the moderators. I am just expressing what I am feeling.

He said, and according to wiki, most diamonds are found around y=11. So having so many diamonds at there is nothing suspicious. I once found a vein of diamonds by mining straight from a cave – found by luck. This doesn’t mean I am using X-ray.

Regarding Zig-zagging, it also does not mean a person is using Xray. In prison server, I mine randomly, hence forming the zig zag pattern. It does not mean I know there’s ores are over there, I just meet them coincidentally.

Amanuelcool told me that blue told the mods that Amaunelcool was using Xray. Does it mean whatever blue said is true and Amanuelcool is a lie? Where’s the evidence?? The mods might have made an ASS out of U and ME (if you don’t get it, it means ASSUME).

I give you some cases
Case 1:
Person A accused Person B that Person B uses Xray. What Person A said may NOT be useful as evidence saying Person B is using Xray as Person A may be framing Person B.

Case 2:
Person A claimed himself using Xray. This makes what Person A said VERY useful as evidence saying Person A is using Xray.

Case 3:
Person A accused Person B that Person B uses Xray and Person B said that he uses Xray. Both viewpoints supports one conclusion, making what Person A said VERY useful.

Case 4: Person A accused Person B that Person B uses Xray but Person B said he did not. Only one person or both people are lying, but we don’t know who, then you need to take a look at multiple viewpoint to see which conclusion the viewpoints support. Note that those providing the viewpoints must have no relationship to the accused and each other, otherwise the reliability is questionable. The “framing” might be set up or planned.

The mods also told me they cannot see what another player sees directly, yet claiming that they are 100% sure that a person is using Xray, I thereby feel very sceptical about the mods’ way of identifying Xrayers. Because how can a mod be 100% sure a person is using Xray if they cannot see directly what another player is seeing on his screen (thereby no concrete evidence).

You have to know mods are humans, not a perfect lawyers, so there will still be mistakes made by the moderators. In this case they probably assumed by believing what blue and and not Amaunelcool (according to what Amaunelcool told me). When coming across such incident again, do not junp to conclusion, instead compare and contrast the viewpoints, and provide concrete evidence, before arriving at a conclusion.

As I said, I am just being very objective, I am neither protecting Amaunelcool nor criticising the moderators. I am just expressing what I am feeling. So I don’t think I deserve any form of punishment such as fine or banning.

• This reply was modified 9 years, 12 months ago by  DragonEngineer.

[DragonEngineerParticipant]

So I hope the mods will understand and unban Amaunelcool ASAP.

[ZznabelaAParticipant]

I will not reveal how guards+ find xrayers, but I am just gonna say that, if we were to ban everyone that the members tell us to… um all of the server would be banned…

[megasethParticipant Karma: 41 pts]

Jiazheng, I don’t know about Prison mods, but from personal experience, Survival Moderators follow the potential X-rayer around for a little while, as to get sufficient evidence of them using such advantageous mods.

[AmanuelcoolParticipant]

ZznabelaA you did understand when i said 7-13 it meant 7,8,9,10,11,12,13, look how fast you assumed the wrong thing about my case.

[TrevishBlocked]

^^
+GuardMods+ may also make mistakes since they are human too
So they are not 100% right

Well,Whether AmanuelCool xrayed or not,I believe he should be given a chance

[DragonEngineerParticipant]

OK then provide concrete evidence that Amanuelcool used Xrays.
I am still very sceptical about how you guys identify Xrayers

• This reply was modified 9 years, 12 months ago by  DragonEngineer.

[megasethParticipant Karma: 41 pts]

Well, the ‘concrete evidence’ needs not to be seen by you, sorry.

[Anonymous]

The evidence should be seen by all players to be fair in my opinion especially when some mods (no naming) forgotten the attribute of critical thinking just like what JiaZheng2707 said as players can pin-point important clues that mods may have overlooked

[Psycho9Participant]

Firstly yes mods are just HUMANS just like the rest of you’s. We are not computers so no matter what our decision is or what we do there is always the potential for human error.

With regards to the actual ban appeal. Firstly blue had nothing to do with it so that is incorrect. As mods we have set protocols to follow when catching people for hacking. In this particular case Amanuelcool you were watched for quite some time and displayed many traits of an x-rayer. There were also 3 different opinions saying that you were using X-ray, which increases the validity of this ban.

I think owning up to something you did wrong, would increase you chances of being unbanned. Considering this is your first offence and you are a good player for this server, you will be unbanned.

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