my ban appeal

[rockstorm125Participant]

in game name– rockstorm125
why banned– xray
date i got banned -4december for me for some 3rd december
why i should be unbanned– well i was basically logged in and gone to wild to get some diamonds cause i was new and saw many videos on getting diamonds like for an hour or so and i find out that the diamond probabilities are in the 13 level so me was just digging till 13 and and stated strip mining and suddenly i got like 3 places where there were bunch of diamonds and again i got the second one i was the happiest person and i get this saying banned for xray im a very sincere guy in playing games and have been in the server very long time like many months in prison and i get this new assistant rank in treetopia. i juat want to say that i never hack and never would it takes the fun out thats what i think
p.s. sorry for the long type story and no grammar

[DragonEngineerParticipant]

This is a similar case to how our assistant, Amanuelcool, was banned. Basically, I don’t know why, almost all my assistants got banned at least once

To be honest, I am very disappointed with this kind of banning without sufficient information. My dear assistant, Amanuelcool, is quitting this server because he had lost faith to the survival server moderators.

By analysing what rockstorm125 said, diamonds are common below Y=13, and it is true according to the game developer, not just the wiki.

Strip mining is about removing every single stones or ores you see, thereby will have 100% chance of exposing ores, which may include diamond ores or other expensive ores. Strip mining and branch mining are 2 main methods of mining which most Xrayers do not adopt.

Here is 1 behaviour of an Xrayer: Mines randomly, occasionally meets expensive ores. If both criteria are not fulfilled, it is not sufficient to say a person uses Xray. That is either 1 is insufficient to prove person using Xray.

By seeing someone finding diamond ores, is it right to say “He uses Xray mod”???? If you straight away ban him for using Xray, then you accepted information uncritically, (aka Uncritical acceptance of information). Take some time to analyse what is really going on.

I heard Headmods can access to a player’s .minecraft file to see if he has Xray mod. However it cannot prove a person is using Xray, because the Xray mod may not be activated.

melee49 and I don’t want to re-write things like “critical thinking” or stuff like that. Because we get very angry if mods do not read what we told them and continue to make the same kind of mistakes.

[xZero_StrikeParticipant Karma: 1 pt]

Strip mining is about removing every SINGLE stones or ores you see, thereby will have 100% chance of exposing ores, which may include diamond ores or other expensive ores. Strip mining and branch mining are 2 main methods of mining which most Xrayers do not adopt.

The staff team knows what it is…

By seeing someone finding diamond ores, is it right to say “He uses Xray mod”???? If you straight away ban him for using Xray, then you accepted information uncritically, (aka Uncritical acceptance of information). Take some time to analyse what is really going on.

It is indeed not right, but the staff team knows when they have a hacker on their hands or not, We do not ban without proof, such a thing is unacceptable!

I heard Headmods can access to a player’s .minecraft file to see if he has Xray mod. However it cannot prove a person is using Xray, because the Xray mod may not be activated.

It could indeed be deactivated, but it doesn’t matter, you shouldn’t have an X-ray file if your .minecraft by default, go in hard, but go in clean.
Even if it’s deactivated, the team cannot take any risks and therefore have all rights to ban him/her.

melee49 and I don’t want to re-write things like “critical thinking” or stuff like that. Because we get very angry if mods do not read what we told them and continue to make the same kind of mistakes.

You and melee don’t have to rewrite anything. A mod(+) does take the feedback he/she has been given and corrects this. (Otherwise he/she wouldn’t have become mod in the first place). If you’re trying to get your friend unbanned by answering this appeal, don’t. It probably won’t change anything or even lower the chances.

> If a player has been banned, it is done with good reasons, and they will be unbanned only if a mod(+) says so. For now, you wait, unfortunately.

-xZero_Strike

[megasethParticipant Karma: 41 pts]

I was watching you for a while, and in a matter of about 2 minutes, you mined straight towards 4-5 different veins, by ‘mysteriously’ digging in a really weird fashion, and you even skipped pass some Emeralds, which were in the wall of where you’d dug straight to the diamonds.
You later went to the Nether, and you had mined straight towards 3 different veins of Quartz Ore…

I doubt that it was just a coincidence in which you got them.

JiaZheng, although Member feedback/opinion is welcome, I know what to look for, and I know what I saw, so I don’t need you asking for proof or anything like that, same with melee.

I am very disappointed with this kind of banning without sufficient information.

I’d banned them with sufficient information/evidence/proof, so don’t just assume I’d do as such.

Mines randomly, occasionally meets expensive ores.

Well, he was indeed mining ‘randomly’, and ‘occasionally’ meeting expensive ores.

By seeing someone finding diamond ores, is it right to say “He uses Xray mod”????

Nope.

Take some time to analyse what is really going on.

I did.

Because we get very angry if mods do not read what we told them and continue to make the same kind of mistakes.

Have you ever thought it’s not a pleasant thing, when people doubt a Moderator’s judgment?

I’ve dealt with X-rayers before, and as such I know the basics of how they mine.
Also, they typically don’t place down torches, possibly as if X-ray mods have something to just make everything as bright as possible.

[2FederalParticipant Karma: 12 pts]

Hmm where should I start? ah

JiaZheng2707@ Headmods can’t go into .minecraft files
if they can then wow ._.
I can tell if someone is using Xray or not, it’s how they mine
xZero_Strike@ Is indeedly right, Mods do need 100% proof if he/she is using hacks or not, They wont just say “Oh hi there it looks like your using hacks, i’ll just ban you” No. But anyways done talking about that.
But in fact I don’t think he use ” Xray ”

tavon1924 here over and out!

[rockstorm125Participant]

I don’t know Jim said emeralds can’t be used and as for quarts I was strip mining indeed it’s just that nether had many quartz but I was banned while mining diamonds and not quartz I’m really not a hacker if u want I’ll send u my whole minecraft folder but don’t blame wrong on me

[megasethParticipant Karma: 41 pts]

You weren’t strip mining, I was watching you for quite some time.
Digging straight towards diamonds can happen by coincidence, yes, but the fact that it had happened numerous times is not a coincidence.
The same can be said about the quartz, you’d dug straight towards the different veins of Quartz Ore each time.

[Anonymous]

Hmm another xray case of my assistant…(why my assistants always get banned and no one’s elses… So illegal and so unfair, I smell Discrimation)

For quartz, really that cant be a bannable reason since they are as common as iron in the overworld (come on there are 142.6 iron ores in 1 chunk, that means there are 142.6 quartz ores in 1 nether chunk as well (provided some dont get deleted) so they are so common for anyone to bump into…this seriously cant be a reason)

For the diamond and emerald ores, i dont know what happened (since i received a facebook message from jia stating that rockstorm125 got banned for xray at 1.37am (Singapore Time, UTC+8) which means i am sleeping of course. Again as usual its all luck (plus world generation) so you got to really think critically. I repeat, CRITICALLY. Ask jia for any info for this.

As for me, Like tavon, i agree that he doesnt x-ray (Since hes G in prison and hasnt been using xray).

Of course its based on the Admins and Headmods so i hope you read this and like i said, think critically.

Signed,

Melee (whichever melee you want)

[megasethParticipant Karma: 41 pts]

Melee, you’re really clueless on the matter.
I was watching him for quite a while, so just stop arguing with myself, and just mods in general.

For quartz, really that cant be a bannable reason

I was watching him get diamonds through walls, without him even trying to strip mine.
People can use X-ray mods to get Iron, Coal, or even Redstone if they want; It’s not at all limited.
However, if you get caught using X-ray, then you get banned.

this seriously cant be a reason)

It is.

Again as usual its all luck

You weren’t there at the time, as you’ve even admitted, so get over it.
I’d witnessed multiple occasions where they’d mine randomly into a wall, or mine down/up a bit out of what you’d usually do, and they found diamonds.

Since hes G in prison and hasnt been using xray).

That doesn’t prove that he doesn’t use X-ray, because if he has X-ray, he could just either be waiting for no mods to be on (Which at the time of him being on Surv, I was Vanished the entire time.) OR, he could just be using it strategically.

Of course its based on the Admins and Headmods

No actually, it was based off of my judgment, as well as what I’d seen from rockstorm.

You really need to just stop arguing with mods, melee, as well as JiaZheng, and you need to stop assuming we either ban people at random, or that we just ban people based on what we’re told.
As I’ve said, I was watching them for quite a while, so as to verify my suspicions.

@rockstorm

as for quarts I was strip mining

No you weren’t, so don’t lie to me.

I was banned while mining diamonds and not quartz

I banned you in the Nether, not while you were mining Diamonds, so again, don’t lie.

don’t blame wrong on me

I’m not blaming you wrongly, I banned you because I noticed you were X-raying.

I highly doubt that your random mining into walls and finding Diamond was done purely out of ‘luck’.

[xZero_StrikeParticipant Karma: 1 pt]

Melee your statements are entirely false. Any sort of ore found and mined is an “advantage” over others, and as such it doesn’t matter which ore has been found.
Our staff thinks critically, all the time. As I answered to Jia before, We do not ban without proof, nor do we ban if we aren’t 100% sure. We observe the players that are suspected of hacking and take action when we caught them redhanded, if I may say so.
It doesn’t depend on Admin/Headmod either, the general rule is: hacks = ban, and every staff member sticks to that.

Please do not argue with the staff team, if one has been banned, there are reasons for that.

-xZero_Strike

[rockstorm125Participant]

Ok u don’t believe me just give me last chance to play plz

[TrevishBlocked]

rockstorm125,be true to your ban appeal

• This reply was modified 9 years, 11 months ago by  Trevish. Reason: Im So dumb

[2FederalParticipant Karma: 12 pts]

melee49@ is indeed right if hes in rank G in prison why didn’t he get ban weeks ago?

But really dude I really really belive that your not leiing to the mod team.
But if your not using Xray just give the mod team your .Mc and they can see for them selfs.

And guys really stop fighting with the mods.

[TrevishBlocked]

tavon,we are talking about Survival atm
not prison

[2FederalParticipant Karma: 12 pts]

I know.

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